{"id":158402,"date":"2009-07-01T18:28:53","date_gmt":"2009-07-01T18:28:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/new.moldova.org\/2009\/07\/01\/only-north-korea-has-a-registration-system-like-moscows-202149-eng\/"},"modified":"2009-07-01T18:28:53","modified_gmt":"2009-07-01T18:28:53","slug":"only-north-korea-has-a-registration-system-like-moscows-202149-eng","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moldova.org\/en\/only-north-korea-has-a-registration-system-like-moscows-202149-eng\/","title":{"rendered":"Only North Korea Has a Registration System like Moscow\u2019s"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 3<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span><p><em>By Paul Goble<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A virtual movement of legal activists is working in the Russian capital to help people moving there comply with the law and work with a government registration system unlike any in the world at the present time &#8212; except for the one maintained by the regime in North Korea, one of the leaders of the &ldquo;Illegals of Moscow&rdquo; movement says.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview posted on the Chaskor.ru portal today, that individual speaking on condition of anonymity because of the risk of reprisal from officials told Yuliya Burmistrova that Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov&rsquo;s claim that such registration systems exist &ldquo;in all the major capitals of the world&rdquo; is simply &ldquo;a lie&rdquo; (www.chaskor.ru\/p.php?id=8033).<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;There is nothing like [Moscow&rsquo;s system] anywhere in the world,&rdquo; the Illegals of Moscow leader said. Members of that organization &ldquo;have specially studied this question and the last country with such a registration [&ldquo;propiska&rdquo;] regime is the Korean Peoples Democratic Republic&rdquo; under Kim Jong-Il.<\/p>\n<p>In her introduction to the interview, Burmistrova notes that the site of the Illegals of Moscow &ndash; www.nelegal.ru &ndash; is the public face of &ldquo;a virtual civic movement&rdquo; intended to provide guidance to those navigating the difficulties of the Moscow registration system and support for them, including assistance in making appeals to prosecutors.<\/p>\n<p>But she notes that since its formation in September 1999, the people behind the site have been committed not to violating any laws or helping others to do so. Instead, they &ldquo;require&rdquo; that those with whom they work obey all laws and the Russian Constitution, but the name of the site and the composition of those they help mean that those involved can only speak anonymously.<\/p>\n<p>The site was created a decade ago, the activist said, by a group of &ldquo;private persons&rdquo; who had &ldquo;experienced all &lsquo;the charms&rsquo; of the Moscow registration system: discrimination and humiliation by bureaucrats and the militia&rdquo; when they deal with Muscovites and &ldquo;the limitation of [their] rights&rdquo; and who wanted to help others.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, only a small fraction of those arriving in the city visit the site, although some 8,000 people did so in the last month alone (top.mail.ru\/rating?id=1281515&amp;date=2009-06-29). Indeed, the activist said, &ldquo;the typical portrait of the visitor and member of the virtual community of illegals is a highly educated young specialist.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Unfortunately,&rdquo; the activist continued, the group is &ldquo;extremely limited in its resources and is forced to struggle with an enormous machine that transforms arrivals into nutricious food for an enormous inhuman monster&rdquo; that lives by &ldquo;bribes&rdquo; and by &ldquo;the unconscionable and uncontrolled exploitation of those from outside the city.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>So offensive is this processing that &ldquo;the word &lsquo;Muscovite&rsquo; has become a term of derision if not a curse.&rdquo; For example, the interviewee said, &ldquo;the majority of marriages in Moscow are concluded not on the basis of love but for a residence permit.  Can this be normal?&rdquo; the activist asked rhetorically.<\/p>\n<p>Given that, the activist said, the Illegals of Moscow group also sees itself as working to &ldquo;change the image of Moscow, to convert it from an inhospitable city with eternally hungry militiamen and unfriendly people into a free and welcoming place in which it is comfortable and pleasing for all to live.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>A major reason why the powers that be are able to get away with their arbitrary behavior is the legal illiteracy of the population.  &ldquo;The people do not know their rights, not only about registration but about any other. &ldquo; No one reads the laws or is interested in his or her rights,&rdquo; the activist said.<\/p>\n<p>Other serious problems are that even when the laws and the constitution are clear, regional officials who don&rsquo;t like them simply ignore them. And given Russia&rsquo;s lack of a precedent system of justice, everyone who faces the authorities must start from square one against what the authorities say is the law.<\/p>\n<p>Asked what laws the organization would like to see changed, the activist said that it would prefer to see the entire institution of registration or &ldquo;propiska&rdquo; eliminated.  At present, the situation that exists in Moscow is &ldquo;surreal&rdquo; with the authorities wanting information but not wanting to give people registration permits in the absence of bribes or pressure.<\/p>\n<p>The activist, however, held out little hope that the situation in Moscow would change for the better anytime soon. While this virtual group has regularly declared its desire to meet with the authorities, they have been harassed or ignored since Russian &ldquo;government organs do everything they can to prevent citizens from achieving what is theirs by right.&rdquo;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 3<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span>A virtual movement of legal activists is working in the Russian capital to help people moving there comply with the law and work with a government registration system unlike any in the world at the present time &#8212; except for the one maintained by the regime in North Korea, one of the leaders of the \u201cIllegals of Moscow\u201d movement says.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-158402","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics"],"content_social_share":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Reading Time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 3<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span><p><em>By Paul Goble<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A virtual movement of legal activists is working in the Russian capital to help people moving there comply with the law and work with a government registration system unlike any in the world at the present time &#8212; except for the one maintained by the regime in North Korea, one of the leaders of the &ldquo;Illegals of Moscow&rdquo; movement says.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview posted on the Chaskor.ru portal today, that individual speaking on condition of anonymity because of the risk of reprisal from officials told Yuliya Burmistrova that Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov&rsquo;s claim that such registration systems exist &ldquo;in all the major capitals of the world&rdquo; is simply &ldquo;a lie&rdquo; (www.chaskor.ru\/p.php?id=8033).<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;There is nothing like [Moscow&rsquo;s system] anywhere in the world,&rdquo; the Illegals of Moscow leader said. Members of that organization &ldquo;have specially studied this question and the last country with such a registration [&ldquo;propiska&rdquo;] regime is the Korean Peoples Democratic Republic&rdquo; under Kim Jong-Il.<\/p>\n<p>In her introduction to the interview, Burmistrova notes that the site of the Illegals of Moscow &ndash; www.nelegal.ru &ndash; is the public face of &ldquo;a virtual civic movement&rdquo; intended to provide guidance to those navigating the difficulties of the Moscow registration system and support for them, including assistance in making appeals to prosecutors.<\/p>\n<p>But she notes that since its formation in September 1999, the people behind the site have been committed not to violating any laws or helping others to do so. Instead, they &ldquo;require&rdquo; that those with whom they work obey all laws and the Russian Constitution, but the name of the site and the composition of those they help mean that those involved can only speak anonymously.<\/p>\n<p>The site was created a decade ago, the activist said, by a group of &ldquo;private persons&rdquo; who had &ldquo;experienced all &lsquo;the charms&rsquo; of the Moscow registration system: discrimination and humiliation by bureaucrats and the militia&rdquo; when they deal with Muscovites and &ldquo;the limitation of [their] rights&rdquo; and who wanted to help others.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously, only a small fraction of those arriving in the city visit the site, although some 8,000 people did so in the last month alone (top.mail.ru\/rating?id=1281515&amp;date=2009-06-29). Indeed, the activist said, &ldquo;the typical portrait of the visitor and member of the virtual community of illegals is a highly educated young specialist.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Unfortunately,&rdquo; the activist continued, the group is &ldquo;extremely limited in its resources and is forced to struggle with an enormous machine that transforms arrivals into nutricious food for an enormous inhuman monster&rdquo; that lives by &ldquo;bribes&rdquo; and by &ldquo;the unconscionable and uncontrolled exploitation of those from outside the city.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>So offensive is this processing that &ldquo;the word &lsquo;Muscovite&rsquo; has become a term of derision if not a curse.&rdquo; For example, the interviewee said, &ldquo;the majority of marriages in Moscow are concluded not on the basis of love but for a residence permit.  Can this be normal?&rdquo; the activist asked rhetorically.<\/p>\n<p>Given that, the activist said, the Illegals of Moscow group also sees itself as working to &ldquo;change the image of Moscow, to convert it from an inhospitable city with eternally hungry militiamen and unfriendly people into a free and welcoming place in which it is comfortable and pleasing for all to live.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>A major reason why the powers that be are able to get away with their arbitrary behavior is the legal illiteracy of the population.  &ldquo;The people do not know their rights, not only about registration but about any other. &ldquo; No one reads the laws or is interested in his or her rights,&rdquo; the activist said.<\/p>\n<p>Other serious problems are that even when the laws and the constitution are clear, regional officials who don&rsquo;t like them simply ignore them. And given Russia&rsquo;s lack of a precedent system of justice, everyone who faces the authorities must start from square one against what the authorities say is the law.<\/p>\n<p>Asked what laws the organization would like to see changed, the activist said that it would prefer to see the entire institution of registration or &ldquo;propiska&rdquo; eliminated.  At present, the situation that exists in Moscow is &ldquo;surreal&rdquo; with the authorities wanting information but not wanting to give people registration permits in the absence of bribes or pressure.<\/p>\n<p>The activist, however, held out little hope that the situation in Moscow would change for the better anytime soon. 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